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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 2, 2017 21:07:51 GMT -6
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Post by Phalon on Jan 3, 2017 11:59:56 GMT -6
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 4, 2017 8:41:07 GMT -6
I saw a clip from an interview with Paul Ryan in which he stated that he didn't support the effort to close the ethics office mostly because its not the first thing he wanted us to be looking at.
And you know damn well that those tweets were not made by Trump. Way too even keel.
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Post by Phalon on Jan 6, 2017 8:05:40 GMT -6
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 6, 2017 8:31:04 GMT -6
OMG!!!! Is there anyone left who voted for that jerk that isn't a racist frell nut that still thinks he's a good guy?
And there is a lot of swearing in there I am imagining is turning into quite the hash of language.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 6, 2017 8:31:28 GMT -6
Oooh, Not too bad!
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Post by Phalon on Jan 6, 2017 8:50:04 GMT -6
The latest president-elect "presidential" tweet:
"Wow, the ratings are in and Arnold Schwarzenegger got "swamped" (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for being a movie star-and that was season 1 compared to season 14. Now compare him to my season 1. But who cares, he supported Kasich & Hillary."
Shouldn't he be preparing for an intel briefing or something instead of paying attention to the ratings of Celebrity Apprentice?
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 6, 2017 8:58:55 GMT -6
You'd think.
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Post by Spock on Jan 7, 2017 14:52:19 GMT -6
OMG!!!! Is there anyone left who voted for that jerk that isn't a racist frell nut that still thinks he's a good guy? And there is a lot of swearing in there I am imagining is turning into quite the hash of language. Hmm, I voted for him. But I suppose I fit your profile based on my vitriolic attacks on everyone in the forum ...
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 8, 2017 8:53:36 GMT -6
Aww......is that sarcasm? I guess we'll see who is right. Providing we all survive.
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 8, 2017 21:10:44 GMT -6
Gonna be a long four years methinks.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 9, 2017 19:23:36 GMT -6
Just found out today I am going to the Women's March. It won't be a long four years if we all keep talking and observing.
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Post by Phalon on Jan 9, 2017 20:42:14 GMT -6
Oh! I'm glad you were able to get the day off. Forgot to ask - is your Mom able to go too?
Made my donation to Planned Parenthood this morning.
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Post by Phalon on Jan 10, 2017 7:07:51 GMT -6
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 10, 2017 9:24:18 GMT -6
That is awesome. Yes Mom is going but she can't decide if she want's to do the actual march of just go to the rally after. Not sure she will be bale to keep up on the march. It's quite a ways for us and she hasn't been keeping in shape since she retired.
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Post by Phalon on Jan 19, 2017 12:49:27 GMT -6
Spock, you wrote something shortly after the election that has stuck with me since. Basically it was a common sense or common knowledge or maybe a bit of both reminder of how our election process and government works: Someone is elected, and if you don't agree with his policies, when he is up for re-election, you vote for the candidate you think will be a better leader (whether it's four years later for president or two years for state elected officials). The part of the post that stuck with me was something like if a person doesn't think the president's policies are just, organize opposition to his reelection - and I keep revisiting that in my head. Four years is a long time to wait. In the meantime, a person can write his or her congressman, state representatives, and locally elected officials to voice approval or disapproval on government issues. A person can also join organizations, attend rallies or protests, or organize local groups to let their voices be heard. In other words, be active. Another post was made here around the same time, in which the reasons for the post-election protests and the protesters themselves were misunderstood. The most recent posts here have been about another kind of activism - The Women's March. Due to the misconception of those initial protests, I thought it might be a good idea to post a few links (out of many, many articles I've read) explaining what the Women's March is exactly ("inclusive unity and solidarity that aims to generate massive mobilization worldwide against the increasing erosion of women’s basic economic and human rights") and what it is NOT (an anti-Trump rally). Though some of these articles come from partisan-slanting publications, the articles themselves are largely nonpartisan. Despite the artsy photos (it is Vogue, afterall), this interview with the march's organizers is pretty comprehensive: www.vogue.com/13520360/meet-the-women-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/This one explains how the Washington March led to the WMG (Women's March Global) and the framework of H.E.R.S. (Health, Economic Security, Representation, and Safety) - issues that affect women worldwide (it's a coincidence "Health" comes first, since the repeal and replace [?] or delay[?] of the A.C.A. and defunding of Planned Parenthood has been set in place in one fell swoop): www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/5878a635e4b094e1aa9dc530 And which article to choose last? Because this organization is one I support, and because the other two only briefly mention the environmental aspects of the issues represented at the marches, this one is from the Sierra Club: www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2017-1-january-february/green-life/women-s-march-washington-will-be-big-and-it-might-be
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 20, 2017 6:00:17 GMT -6
Just found out today I am going to the Women's March. It won't be a long four years if we all keep talking and observing. Have fun Scrappy (not sure fun is the appropriate word) but above all stay safe.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 20, 2017 8:29:39 GMT -6
I have no doubt of my safety. It's meant to be a completely peacful protest.
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 20, 2017 19:19:12 GMT -6
I have no doubt of my safety. It's meant to be a completely peacful protest. Understood, but even the most peaceful of protests can turn very nasty very fast.
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Post by Phalon on Jan 22, 2017 8:23:53 GMT -6
It was a beautiful day here - sunny and an unseasonably warm 60 degrees - for the many sister marches that took place across Michigan yesterday. We had wanted to go to Lansing, the state's capitol, but due to Hubs' tonsillectomy, we decided to stay local; sister towns about 20 minutes from here were holding a sister event, marching from one town to the other. The event was beautiful start to finish; the girls didn't want it to end. The march had to be rerouted due to the number of participants; the expected crowd size was between 50 to 100....nearly 1,000 marchers showed up, which is quite amazing considering the population of the two towns combined is about 2,000 total. www.flickr.com/photos/chrisclark/sets/72157677920774990/Scrappy, I hope your experience was just as amazing as ours.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 23, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -6
It was amazing! Ours was expected to have 2,000. Final estimate from the local police was more like 15,000. The march itself started late because the police weren't quite prepared for that many people and had to shut down a few more streets. My mom and I didn't complete the march itself. It was six blocks from start to finish. Mom wasn't up for what would have amounted to 14 block walk and four hours of standing. We did stay for the initial rally and a chunk of the march.
Previously I had been feeling disheartened about the state of our country. After seeing all those people come together to prove we still care and will fight tooth and nail I felt much better. I got my dander up. It was good.
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Post by Spock on Jan 23, 2017 9:28:45 GMT -6
Sounds amazing. Glad everyone had a great experience. I'm just glad I wasn't there ... I'm allergic to dander ... I'm all for peaceful protests.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 23, 2017 13:49:12 GMT -6
I was not at a protest. I was at a rally.
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 23, 2017 21:08:28 GMT -6
It was amazing! Ours was expected to have 2,000. Final estimate from the local police was more like 15,000. The march itself started late because the police weren't quite prepared for that many people and had to shut down a few more streets. My mom and I didn't complete the march itself. It was six blocks from start to finish. Mom wasn't up for what would have amounted to 14 block walk and four hours of standing. We did stay for the initial rally and a chunk of the march. Previously I had been feeling disheartened about the state of our country. After seeing all those people come together to prove we still care and will fight tooth and nail I felt much better. I got my dander up. It was good. Is that a fact, or an alternative fact? Glad you had a good time, and that you're feeling more ebullient (big word for me) about the state of the country.
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Post by Spock on Jan 24, 2017 11:55:39 GMT -6
I was not at a protest. I was at a rally. I'm all for peaceful rallies as well.
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 24, 2017 12:54:29 GMT -6
Is that a fact, or an alternative fact? It is an estimate from the local police department. I don't know if they have an exact count. I don't know if they are able. It might be less. But considering that they are frequently in charge of crowd control for a lot of events I imagine they are pretty good at estimating. And yeah it was a good time.
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 24, 2017 17:45:59 GMT -6
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Post by Phalon on Jan 24, 2017 23:34:18 GMT -6
Myself also. And you and I have talked; you know how disheartened BP has been feeling. I took her down to city hall yesterday, and my very nervous 15 year old explained to the city employee what she wanted to do to, and inquired how to go about doing it. Saturday evening after the march, she and her friend set up a local event page with a Student's March - a 'Students Now; Voters in Four Years' kind of thing. "Great, excellent", I said when they showed it to me, "except I'm sure you're going to need some kind of permit."
The woman at city hall gave her some helpful pointers in filling out the stack of paperwork needed, and the name and phone number of who handles 'special events'. She's got half a day of school tomorrow due to midterms, and hopefully she can get an appointment with the official. Love my daughter, support and respect her cause, but one part of the application concerns me - the $100,000 insurance requirement part!
I am too. I was saddened to see the violence at the protests on inauguration day; I've said it before I know, but I always feel that kind of destruction is not only unnecessary, it lessens the credibility of the cause. In contrast, the magnitude of the crowds at the women's marches around the world was amazing - the sheer volume of people is phenomenal. That many people, that much energy and passion all together peacefully without violence, with no arrests, shows that love really does trump hate.
I did! And as frightening as the implications of the White House using the term "alternative facts" is, I have to admit laughing while perusing the many #AlternativeFacts tweets in response to Conway's blunder (admission), as well as #SpicerFacts the day before.
What I wonder though is what happens when an Alternative Fact is combined with a Spicer Fact? If repeated enough times, over and over, does an Alternative Fact plus a Spicer Fact appear to equal an Actual Fact.
More scary stuff. I thought the exact same things mentioned in the article about a week ago when they slid the defunding of Planned Parenthood in with the first steps to repeal the ACA.
This, combined with the apparent gag orders on the EPA, the USDA, and HHS...sigh...as the last line of the article states...."This is only Day Four."
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Post by Scrappy Amazon on Jan 25, 2017 9:57:54 GMT -6
but one part of the application concerns me - the $100,000 insurance requirement part! Tell BP I am very proud to know her! Also she may want to check with your local office of the DNC and see if they can help with the insurance. They might be able to sponsor her. Or even the ACLU or one of the larger groups that are set up to do this stuff. I agree wholeheartedly. I had a long debate with a good friend a long while back about the difference between violent over throw (bred out of a discussion of gun control) peaceful dissent. Peaceful dissent has always brought about more change than violence. I did bud. For sure. But I felt the need to make it clear that I wouldn't exaggerate to make a point. Unlike other people. congress.gov Its a website that allows you to create an account that you can then set up to send you email alerts on your congressmen and senators and any legislation they introduce and what ever votes the get involved in. I know BP isn't old enough to voter but it might be a good idea for her to be able to keep up to date on the votes going on.
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Post by katina2nd on Jan 25, 2017 22:34:37 GMT -6
I did! And as frightening as the implications of the White House using the term "alternative facts" is, I have to admit laughing while perusing the many #AlternativeFacts tweets in response to Conway's blunder (admission), as well as #SpicerFacts the day before. What I wonder though is what happens when an Alternative Fact is combined with a Spicer Fact? If repeated enough times, over and over, does an Alternative Fact plus a Spicer Fact appear to equal an Actual Fact. Only if you stand on one leg, with your fingers in your ears, and repeat it quickly three times, then I believe it becomes a factual fact. Unfortunately it's unavoidable though, you get enough people at a rally/demonstration and you'll always get some elements looking to cause trouble, which then gives the Hannity's etc of the world the excuse to paint everyone with the same brush.
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