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Post by Spock on Oct 15, 2014 7:29:15 GMT -6
Think I'll have three after that emotional upheaval!
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Post by stepper on Oct 15, 2014 15:46:58 GMT -6
I hear the Imp has access to Triple Sec if that's of interest.
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Post by Spock on Oct 15, 2014 16:27:37 GMT -6
Triple Sec?
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Post by stepper on Oct 15, 2014 18:59:31 GMT -6
A mild liquid sweetener.
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Post by Spock on Oct 16, 2014 11:44:52 GMT -6
How's that going to help with 3 bacon cheeseburgers!?
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Post by stepper on Oct 16, 2014 15:06:46 GMT -6
It's customary among earthers to wash down sustenance with liquid refreshments. Plural. Burping is also often expected - especially when the group is comprised mostly of other males.
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Post by Spock on Oct 16, 2014 20:03:49 GMT -6
Hmm, not sure I can trust what you say. I remember someone telling me about "marsh melons" one time ...
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Post by stepper on Oct 16, 2014 20:39:21 GMT -6
That’s an astute observation Spock. How about I suggest a substitute? Beer. In your case, I recommend the Birch or Root versions. And they’ll help you with the burp thing too!
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Post by Spock on Oct 17, 2014 6:02:20 GMT -6
Vulcans do not burp.
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Post by stepper on Oct 17, 2014 21:00:41 GMT -6
But you’re frequently around dogs who do?
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Post by Spock on Oct 18, 2014 9:56:05 GMT -6
But you’re frequently around dogs who do? Am I? What does that have to do with what I eat or drink!? BTW, just opened an email from MSI that had been delivered at 1855 last night. My motherboard is on its way back!
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Post by stepper on Oct 18, 2014 13:15:40 GMT -6
All the gaseous pressure is heading someplace. Since you say it isn’t going up, then it’s going down, and like all polite societal ladies, you’ll need someone or something to blame.
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Post by Spock on Oct 18, 2014 16:23:16 GMT -6
I need blame no one. If I feel any such pressures, I simply wait until I am alone in the appropriate room in the house.
I will say I find it a bit disconcerting that we had to replace our bathroom windows twice last year ...
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Post by stepper on Oct 18, 2014 18:47:30 GMT -6
I can see where that would be inconvenient. You might want to consider acquisition of double pane windows – especially if you experience double pain blasting events.
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Post by Spock on Oct 19, 2014 10:31:51 GMT -6
Yes but that could be even worse. It's bad enough having to replace windows, Can you imagine what would happen if the windows refused to give way!?
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Post by stepper on Oct 19, 2014 15:37:06 GMT -6
Leave the chimney flue open. A really good one might also work as a smoke signal!
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Post by Spock on Oct 19, 2014 18:40:54 GMT -6
Doesn't have a chimney flu but it does have a vent fan. I suppose I could hook the fan up backwards and generate some extra electricity.
Wonder if the local power company would pay me if there was a difference?
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Post by stepper on Oct 19, 2014 22:08:08 GMT -6
In nearly every state, a residence which generates more power than it uses is entitled to remuneration at a rate commensurate with the currently effective per watt charge rates. In areas where sunlight is plentiful and solar power is encouraged, there are homes which often generate more power than they use even in winter, and so they are paid by power companies for the overages these locations push back into the grid. While gas is sometimes used as one of the sources of creating steam power to drive turbines for electricity, the government has ‘clean air act’ restrictions which equate to odious and overbearing taxes for violation of the requirements. I suspect your proposal would violate these rules on many levels, but you can always try proving yourself as a controlled source capable of not overpowering the electrical circuits with a sudden surge.
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Post by Spock on Oct 20, 2014 6:34:32 GMT -6
Good thought, it wouldn't do to "blow out" the local transformers.
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Post by stepper on Oct 20, 2014 19:52:56 GMT -6
I agree - the Transformers are not to be trifled with at all. It'd be very inconvenient to have your car convert itself into an aggravated self-actualized hulking robot that can stomp you into goo.
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Post by Spock on Oct 21, 2014 18:12:26 GMT -6
True but, once removed, I wouldn't have to worry one way or the other about any electricity usage.
Side note: I wonder if anyone else is bothering to read any of this or if we've just left them so far in the dust they don't know what to do?
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Post by stepper on Oct 22, 2014 19:46:04 GMT -6
I believe they are too sharp for this conversation to have left any of them in the dust. They are simply not interested in playing with this game of words.
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Post by Spock on Oct 23, 2014 15:10:10 GMT -6
True but I'm not sure I'm up to it any more either. I got my MB back, re-installed everything, and still had the same problem. Found out how to test the PSU and it tests out fine. No one anywhere near has a system advanced enough for me to test the CPU. I don't want to return anything but if I cannot get anything to even power on with all the years of experience I have, I may have to return it all before I'm stuck with an expensive door stop. My brother died of cancer recently as well, so I'm just not in the mood any more. Maybe I should try my hand at being a Country/Western singer ...
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Post by stepper on Oct 23, 2014 16:11:22 GMT -6
Country/Western - I'll leave that up to you since I'd hate giving out bad information, but some of those singers make a lot of money! And most of them starve because their jobs that include pay don't pay enough while they’re waiting to be discovered.
Can you power test individual components? Do you have the necessaries to test circuits? Or can find a local computer store who can do that for you?
If the answers are no, it'd be a disappointing outcome, but you spent way too much to take a loss on incompatible pieces. Send 'em back while you can still get you $$ back, and use some of it to purchase a special order system from a manufacturer you trust/prefer.
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Post by Spock on Oct 23, 2014 21:10:24 GMT -6
No one local has a system powerful enough to test the CPU to see if it works or not. I've sent an email to the vendor asking what recourse I have. If I can't get it to work shortly, I will definitely make an attempt to return everything.
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Post by stepper on Oct 24, 2014 13:18:24 GMT -6
It would have been nice to have it get up and go, but if they "fixed" the incompatibility issue and you still can't get it to power up, you don't have many choices.
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Post by Spock on Oct 24, 2014 19:49:32 GMT -6
I finally got some response but not enough. I removed all the front panel connectors, just hooked up the CPU, memory, keyboard, mouse, video, fans, and power supply. Made sure everything else was unplugged and shorted out the Power Switch front panel connectors. The motherboard started to boot, the diagnostics counted up to 9A and then power died. An LED on the MB flashed brightly for a while until the cycle started over again and the MB started to boot again. Something isn't right somewhere. I removed the CPU and checked the socket but couldn't see any bent pins even using a magnifying glass. The MSI tech now thinks it may be a PSU problem but I don't have another known good power supply of the correct type to switch in to test.
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Post by stepper on Oct 26, 2014 18:42:18 GMT -6
If you have reduced the system to a monitor, a power supply unit, and a motherboard, and it still won't power up, I can think of only two options. Either it HAS to have a disk drive which you might be able to fake by using a USB with a thumb drive, or one of the two components is failing due to compatibility errors. I'm bypassing a problem with the mother board as they should have discovered that when they reloaded your BIOS.
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Post by Spock on Oct 26, 2014 20:19:12 GMT -6
I hooked up the PSU to a tester and all voltages are correct. If there is no problem with the MB, that only leaves the CPU.
The OEM for the MB were the ones who suggested the setup for testing, so it evidently doesn't need a HD to boot.
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Post by stepper on Oct 27, 2014 19:50:56 GMT -6
So now the question is as much about timing as anything else. Can you get a replacement quickly enough that if this doesn't work you can return all the parts?
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