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Post by buttcheeks on Jun 3, 2005 8:26:54 GMT -6
Someone just recently introduced me to this show with Whitley Strieber. You can listen to it here free each week. If you join (which I haven't) you have access to more indepth stuff. www.unknowncountry.com/media/
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Post by buttcheeks on Jun 18, 2005 13:20:14 GMT -6
This week's interview is about the 9/11 consipiracy. That the US did it to itself and how the Bush family is tied to Bin Laden. How the airplane in PA was shot down by the US. Very interesting stuff.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 22, 2005 17:48:32 GMT -6
I didn't check out the 9/11 interview, but I've heard all those theories.US did it to itself: I actually thought of that one too, although I can't say with any surety that they were actually in on what was going to happen. I do believe the Administration at least ignored intelligence reports of threats so that something would happen to give them an excuse to attack Iraq, since they wanted to go to war with Iraq before 9/11/01. A Presidential Daily Briefing given to Dubya earlier that year stated that Osama had plans of using US planes in a terrorist attack, but it's possible they may not have known what the targets were, despite the fact that the plane that hit the Pentagon hit the only portion that had been fortified. Bush/Bin Laden family ties: Yes, there were business ties between Dubya's grandfather and Osama's father Mohammed Bin Laden. One of Osama's many brothers was also a major investor in one of Dubya's failed business ventures, which happened to be an oil company. Airplane in PA was shot down: According to all the eyewitness accounts that I've read about, I wholeheartedly believe this is true. It seems that Cheney gave the order before anyone realized that the passengers had started fighting the terrorists. I have no idea if the passengers would have gained control of the plane had they been given more time.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jun 23, 2005 12:40:23 GMT -6
If you do have a chance to listen and listen all the way thru it's worth the 50 + minutes. I've been listening to Whitley for several months now and I just think what he has to say--the topics are so interesting. One of them was a brief on Peter Jennings illness after hosting that investigation on UFO's (which I never watched when it aired) and how they believed Peter got ill and why.
9/11: There is also evidence that the planes weren't airliners but a different type plane that hit the WTC. That might be in this interview too.
There is actual footage or audio of an interview with Cheyney stating that he gave the order to shoot down the plane. It was all said as a fact of what happened.
I still don't know how the gov't and media pull this misinformation off. I really don't except by diverting our attention to other things like celebrity court cases and sex and crime. There was a very good talk just recently about cancer and why it is so prevelant and how it is all tied to those sugar cubes the US gave out in the 1950's for TB when Finland or Sweden or some place wouldn't hand them out because they knew it would be dangerous to do. I think it has something to do with the monkey virus.
Anyhow, I think if the US wanted to make a case for war how better than to attack yourself and make it a reason to point the finger to Iraq. So we lose just a couple thousand of lives. These people in control of the US and the world for selfish purposes don't give a d*m about anyone but their own selfish interests. Most recently on one of the interviews they had Bush's astrological chart and evidently Neptune square Sun in Bush's chart has a very deep significance to Bush's faith. It was concluded that Bush is following some medium of belief but it is not God. And if you follow the show you can imagine who or what Bush is all about. Anyhow, I enjoy listening to what's next each week.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 23, 2005 23:47:49 GMT -6
If you're talking 50+ minutes listening time, then I'm afraid it would take me an entire day to download, and there's no way I could do everything else I have to do with a download slowing down my connection all day. I would think there would've been plenty of eyewitnesses come forward by now if that were the case. Plus think of all the people who lost family members in those airplanes. There's no way they could have been anything other than the passenger planes they've been reported to be. I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I also saw a 9/11 timeline that says what time he gave the order. Three words: Special interest groups. There are actually some legitimate but lesser-known news sources out there, but because they're lesser-known, the right-wing has an easier time of making people believe they're not legitimate. I don't know anything about that. I know there was a rumor out there in the 80's that AIDS came from people eating monkey brains. I think he believes he is God. What I don't understand is why so many people still believe he's trying to do good for this country, when all he obviously cares about is his own wealth and power.
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Post by rsine69 on Jun 24, 2005 0:02:21 GMT -6
While I do believe that Cheney gave the order to shoot one of the planes down. I don't buy into any of these consperacy theories that suggest that the Bush administration was behind the 911 attacks all along. I blame the Bush adminastration for incompetance for failing to act to prevent it from happening.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 24, 2005 0:11:01 GMT -6
Yeah, they're so incompetent that they didn't even rush Dubya off to safety while our country was being attacked and he was sitting in that kindergarten class pretending to read a children's book. Since this appearance was publicized in advance, he would have been an easy target there, and the children would have been in danger because of his appearance.
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Post by rsine69 on Jun 24, 2005 0:17:37 GMT -6
Hey Le. Are both you and Jox here??? Your handles aren't listed in the who's online. Be kinda cool to get a chat going again.
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Post by Joxcenia on Jun 24, 2005 0:24:49 GMT -6
Sorry... I'm heading for bed... having a hard time keeping my eyes open.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 24, 2005 0:49:44 GMT -6
Same here. I have stuff to do before work tomorrow.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jun 24, 2005 8:50:31 GMT -6
I don't know how dial up works anymore. It's live stream. Well I think this too but when you listen to this stuff, the information is out there, it's just that it is suppressed. Look at the Aruba missing US gal thing. The media gets hold of one idea and makes it factual. Who allows this? Well I think it is about a monkey virus strain. But it's about how it was used. Well, that's obvious. Dubya is also listed as one of the four current day Antichrists as well. "The village idiot" quatrain from Nostradamus wasn't really a joke about the first election of Geroge.. It made referees to dubya. There is more to it, evidently, than you or I can see because all this stuff was written in codes and ciphers so that the masses couldn't easily identify things. Which makes me wonder. Who or what went ahead in time to see the future and then coded it to the trained initiates to see and understand and interpret. It's mind boggling. rsine says: What I don't understand is why there was no wreckage. Just this big black dent in the field at Shanksville. I live in the viewing area for local coverage of this. And when the Johnstown news crew got there, they basically pulled back to the perimeters stunned and basically with reverence did not attempt to make a spectacle out of their coverage for the mass media initially. As a matter of fact everyone was kept out for awhile. After it was all over, the local channel did a one hour documentary about how it affected the crew and you just sat there and bawled. So how does an airplane crash and there's no wreckage? What causes the crash to just be a black dent in the ground?Yeah, they're so incompetent that they didn't even rush Dubya off to safety while our country was being attacked and he was sitting in that kindergarten class pretending to read a children's book. This was in this last interview Whitley did on June 18. It's because he knew it was going to happen. Remember how Bush's initiatives were about education? He was out encouraging his agenda in Florida that day. Always in Florida *grrr* while his evil friends carried out the undercover agenda to setup the war with Iraq. Don't you think it's kinda odd that we would start a war over 3500 people? Don't you think it kinda odd that the country with the most advanced technology and intelligence is very stupid in that we didn't know when there was intelligence out there about all this? That we weren't more on the defensive? That we just allowed people in our country and just let them stay after their visas expired? That they were training to do the very thing we were suspicious of and we did nothing? Look at our plan to go into Iraq. It was stupid too. Drive straight up to Bag dad and just show up and pound some targets with missiles and expect everyone to lay down their weapons and call it a victory. I think the US looked very dumb. Actually we look dumb even to this day. Something ain't right and people have to wonder that somewhere in the backs of their minds. You don't leave thousands of tons of missiles and ammunition left unguarded and not destroyed for the enemy to get and create havoc. I've never seen a bunch of nits that I see with Rumsfeld and Bush. And they are using US bodies to fight a war. They don't care about "people" and certainly about US citizens who give their lives for a ridiculous cause. This administration is absolutely cruel masked under the guise of God and Christianity as an excuse for terrible decisions and actions we've taken as a country.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 25, 2005 0:50:26 GMT -6
Oh, so in that case, it would be a word here, a minute of buffering, another word or two, another minute of buffering... I've never heard of the Aruba missing US gal. So, they put a monkey virus in sugar cubes? I have no doubt. He pretty much acts like God Himself tells him what to do, but does exactly opposite of what the Bible says God would want him to do. I'm sure plenty of Nostradamus' quatrains about idiots could be applied to Dubya. He could have 'coded' it so that people could read their own things into it whenever a certain situation fit. Fakes do it all the time, so who can really tell the real thing from a fake? There was wreckage, but it was bits and pieces, miles away in all directions from the main impact. At the crater, the part of the plane that hit there probably disintegrated upon impact, just like the planes that crashed into the towers and into the Pentagon. Yep, always in Florida. It would make sense if Saddam was actually the one behind the attacks and he actually did have WMD's, but neither case applied here, and the one behind it all was just some rich guy who made his followers believe they'd be in Heaven with a bunch of virgins if they killed themselves for some so-called religious cause. But what I don't get is how the American people could be led to believe that Saddam was behind it all and/or Saddam was going to give/sell WMD's to Osama... because if that were the case, then why on Earth would Osama need to get his people to hijack our planes and crash them into buildings if he had access to WMD's? This is why I never ever bought into any of the rhetoric they were spouting before or after our administration started the war, and I kept asking myself how other people could even entertain the notion. I still keep asking myself this, and I am completely dumbfounded as to how Dubya can even have one supporter today (typical Americans, mind you, not counting those with their hands in the cookie jar), much less enough to get him elected for a second term. I just don't get it. Yes, yes, yes, and yes. And the intelligence was presented to Dubya on a piece of paper on August 6, 2001, with the heading, "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" ( link to a copy of the actual PDB), and said: We know Dubya can't read, but what about the people who presented this briefing to him? They had reports that Osama wanted to hijack our aircraft, yet they waited until after 9/11 to heighten airport security? They didn't do anything -- either out of incompetence or to enable Osama -- and in no way should they be running our country. Again, I ask, how in tarnation did that sorry excuse for a man get reelected for a 2nd term? Are the majority of Americans really that stupid and/or greedy? Yeah, even Pa knew it wasn't a good idea to go into Baghdad, otherwise he would've done it during Desert Storm. I was 19 or 20 and thought he was being a wuss at the time, but now I know that Daddy Bush knew better in this case. I'm not going to quote the rest of your post, but I agree 100%. We, the American people (not the government), actually had support from other countries before Dubya got elected to a 2nd term, because they gave us the benefit of the doubt that we didn't know he was such a tyrant. But now, after the Americans got to see what a [any profanity you'd like to insert here would certainly apply] Dubya is, the stupid and/or power hungry majority of Americans voted for him to stay in office. What does that say about America as a whole? Quite frankly, whenever I see a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker on a car, I just want to take a sledge hammer to that car, or wait for the owner to come out so I can tell them how stupid they are for believing the [bleep]er and tell them it's no wonder this country is going to sh** because of people like them. Maybe I should print out copies of the Aug 6, 2001 PDB, highlight a few select parts, and stick them on their windshields.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jun 25, 2005 11:18:49 GMT -6
Ah I remember now Dailup. Yes. One word then buffer for ten minutes. Gee. That sux. Evidently. Isn't that awful? His astrological chart shows he has Neptune square Sun. The interpretation is one of delusion. Therefore he believes he is conversing with God and God gives him guidance. But it's really another medium. I don't have the official spelling but it was something like Dubya. It was written to look more French. Evidently people who are more spiritually attuned with much higher intellect than us. I've also heard that the twin towers were rigged to explode because of the main structure and the heat levels that the fuel wouldn't have been enough to bring down the towers. Yup, we've elected one sick twisted delusional puppy under the guise of religion. An Antichrist. Because that information you know others don't know about it. It's about MIS-information. What is fortunate is that many more people have woke up over the years and can see this machine of misinformation and when we cry 'foul', people like Bush are still, somehow, able to keep this wool over the masses eyes until they all wake up. But how can someone sane take over the Presidency when the past two have been rigged for Bush. Someone, some persons of sinister and power are making the decisions to allow this and for what purpose? Power and money. They aren't paying attention to things. They are busy with their life and distractions that the govt feeds us thru the media to understand and see it. I used to be one of them. It's very easy to stay at that level and know nothing more or think there is anything wrong going on. Yes, I remember our dearly beloved Condaleeza trying to explain it away in Washington and the media spinned it that she did very well. All an orchestrated outcome. I saw and she failed miserably in defending the findings.
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Post by Lesa on Jun 27, 2005 18:23:59 GMT -6
Do you have any idea why they would do that? Well, he is pretty stupid, so maybe he really does believe what he says. I don't know which is scarier, delusions or flat-out lying. I once heard that Hitler was so delusional that he sent out orders to troops that didn't exist; whether they never existed or were already defeated I can't remember. But I also hear that Hitler was very intelligent strategically, so I guess he crossed the fine line between genius and insanity once he started losing the war. Lucky for Dumbya, he has people working his 'strategery' for him, since he couldn't strategize his way out of a paper bag. Maybe it was Dumbya. I suppose anything is possible. Maybe the terrorists were able to smuggle bombs onto the planes. But the theory on rigging the towers does seem plausible when you combine the fact that the one plane hit the only part of the Pentagon that had been fortified. It would figure... rigging the towers for the most possible damage while rigging the Pentagon and hitting it in that same area so it would cause the least possible damage, but be enough to make people say, "They hit the Pentagon too, so how could they possibly be in on it?" I can see where these conspiracy theories come from. Ironic, isn't it? All they have to do is pay attention to the lies they are fed and think about it logically. People already know that WMD's cause a lot more damage than an airplane, so why use airplanes if he has access to WMD's? Unfortunately, not enough people woke up before the last election. But hopefully enough will wake up by the end of his term so they don't vote in another delusional president with a power-hungry cabinet. And they tried to impeach Clinton for sexual improprieties. I don't condone him cheating on his wife, but a little diversion in the middle of the day is a good way to rejuvenate the brain cells so he can do a better job, and he was a good President who might have accomplished even more if the right-wing hadn't tied him up with all that impeachment crap. Yeah, sometimes I forget that my brain never shuts down while others do. I really envy others sometimes, because it's hard to get a good night's sleep when my thinking keeps me awake for hours after I go to bed. I remember her giving her supposedly vague recollection of the memo after I had seen the copy posted at thesmokinggun.com. I'm sorry, but that memo isn't something that one should just set aside and forget about, and the fact is they didn't act on the information once they were privy to it.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 7, 2005 14:24:36 GMT -6
Periodic purge of the population. Isn't that the sad pathetic truth. Too neatly done, I think. Funny the media didn't discuss this. It's interesting what the media doesn't discuss when you think about it. But, hasn't the public figured out that we don't elect the President. Hasn't it become as plain as the nose on our faces since 2000 that we aren't electing anyone. We haven't been doing it. The media is showing us the tricks that have been going on. The President is not elected by the US voting citizens.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 8, 2005 12:30:17 GMT -6
secure1.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=ukcountry&BusType=BtoC&Count1=700191676&Count2=617332100&ProductID=205&Target=products.aspThis week with Whitely Strieber July 9. Jim Marrs will talk, again, about the 9/11 coverup by the US. Dreamland: After the London Attack, Jim Marrs Reports on 911 08-Jul-2005 Jim Marrs From the Kennedy conspiracy to the UFO cover up to 911, Jim Marrs is at the cutting edge of secret knowledge, and Whitley Strieber's penetrating interview brings out explosive revelations about that fateful day in 2001 that he has never revealed before. Listen as Jim describes in careful detail exactly why it MUST be true that the whole story of 911 has not been told, and offers his educated speculation about what is being concealed. Here’s some good news: Jim's cutting edge book on 911, Inside Job, has at last been reprinted and is again available from our store! Listen here:www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4699Look for July 9 interview. As of right now July 2 is still showing.
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Post by Lesa on Jul 8, 2005 22:56:32 GMT -6
That's just sick, but I wouldn't put it past them. Yes, it's very interesting indeed. I almost think that they try to clue us in on some things by giving us a detail or two that doesn't add up, but then someone in the Government quickly threatens them to not say any more on whatever particular subject. I mean, if the news were so coordinated by the Government, then we wouldn't even get the illogical information from the news that we do, right? He certainly wasn't elected in 2000, and I don't think we'll ever know if he really got all those votes in '04. I do know that the lies got him enough support to at least make it feasible that he may have gotten that many votes in 2004, but certainly not by honest means. But then again, most politicians don't get the support they do by honest means, so why should Dumbya be any different? If only Kerry had been completely honest and not overinflated numbers that didn't need to be overinflated (since the real numbers were already bad enough), and if he had shown more backbone, then we might have gotten Dumbya out of office. Not that I was completely thrilled with Kerry, mind you, but he certainly seems to have more moral fiber than Dumbya, and I doubt he would let warnings like the August 6, 2001 PDB get by him without doing something about it.
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Post by Lesa on Jul 8, 2005 23:02:28 GMT -6
You and I have plenty of educated speculation. What we need is for more documented facts to be publicized and discussed in great detail in the mainstream media, so the other half of America can be educated. But it certainly doesn't hurt that you're getting the word out about these broadcasts, because it still helps to get people questioning what they've been told.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 14, 2005 16:14:12 GMT -6
In the black arts this allows for more manisfestation of power. Even those that call them "lightworkers" acknowledge that when large groups of people die on earth that it lightens the negative energy on earth. But I think the other side of it is more sinister for people like Bush drinking blood in Brussels of human sacrifices. I've read some really strange stuff about what goes on in Brussels with these members of 'skull and bones'. I did have some stuff bookmarked but lost it all in my os crash a few months back. yea, I mean no! Maybe it's their mis-information mixed with some of the truth that gets identified. Oh how I wanted him to be different and not get what he got. He didn't get the votes in 2004. It was as was investigated early on that anyone could go into the computer system, pick the appropriate data code and reset the values. It's that simple. There were no checks and balances put into these programs by diebold. Not sure if Ohio had diebold voting computers but Diebold was a name involved with these machines. But Kerry won. What he said did hit home with the voters. It's just that someone behind the scenes changed the truth.
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Post by Freebird on Jul 15, 2005 0:25:39 GMT -6
I wouldn't be suprised by anything Bush does(unless it's actually good for the American people). I had heard that 7 years before the 911 bombing that the Government had found plans in a van at the Trade Center of exactly what had happend and that it had a date on the paper. But you can hear ANYTHING these days I don't know how true it is though. I am listening to the Interview of 911 as I type and it is very interesting. Kinda makes you wanna go hummm. Don't it?
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 15, 2005 11:45:39 GMT -6
Hi Freebird,
That last week interview is fascinating. Jim Marrs is going to be joining Whitley's site in the future to do interviews. I should listen to that broadcast again since it will roll off the page there in about 3-4 more weeks. It does make you go HMMMM....
In last week's interview what dd you think about the WTC with the six floors underground and that guy that went up 3 floors when he heard the explosions before the crash and saw the ruin. Isn't that interesting?
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Post by Freebird on Jul 15, 2005 23:58:02 GMT -6
Yes very, Sort of scary to think what the government can do without the public knowing about it.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 22, 2005 12:36:40 GMT -6
7/23 Secrets of Alchemy and Kabbalah with renowned teacher David Goddard is featured tomorrow.
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Post by Freebird on Jul 23, 2005 22:44:56 GMT -6
Is his interviews only on the internet?
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 24, 2005 10:09:15 GMT -6
Hello Freebird,
Yes, it's on the website I have listed in the first post of this thread. It's streaming audio.
If you go to unknowncountry.com there is a forum. You don' have to register and if there is any conversation about the interview it would be in the "Dreamland" forum.
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Post by buttcheeks on Jul 28, 2005 19:14:14 GMT -6
This Saturday on Dreamland:
UFO Mind Blower, then Jim Marrs on 911
This week we lead off with a stunner of a report from Linda Howe that breaks one of the greatest UFO cases in history wide, wide open. Over 4 days in 1980 there were a series of UFO events near the RAF Bentwaters air base that involved US Air Force personnel.
In November of 2002, the British Ministry of Defense released documents that confirmed the existence of the case, despite extraordinary efforts by US Air Force connected "skeptics" to claim that it was nothing but car lights, or the light of a distant lighthouse.
Now, in a stunner of a report, Linda Howe interviews a NEW Bentwaters witness about his experiences, and they are phenomenal. If this witness had come forward ten years ago, there never would have been a controversy about this amazing case.
DO NOT MISS this extraordinary look into the very secret world of military/ufo contact.
Then Dreamland guest host Jim Marrs interviews Bob Raming of the highly controversial Unite America Now website about NEW information he has obtained on the destruction of the twin towers on 911.
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Post by Lesa on Jul 31, 2005 23:23:58 GMT -6
Yes, Ohio used Diebold machines. It's scary to think that they also make ATM's, considering all the security holes in their voting systems.
I think there's a good possibility that he did win, but if he had just creamed Dubya in the polls, then there would be no way for them to fix the election without it being discovered.
Same here. The only way he would possibly do anything good for us is by accident, since everything he does is for his own personal gain.
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Post by buttcheeks on Aug 6, 2005 8:04:23 GMT -6
Today is a good one. Mayan prophecy and the 12,000 cycle and another deluge. Got an interesting site off of the conversation which happens to be the guest. It's hard to just read sites without hearing them have a conversation. You can catch later this week the private subscribers remarks on the forum at unknowncountry.com howtosurvive2012.com/
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Post by buttcheeks on Aug 7, 2005 9:26:14 GMT -6
Patrick Geryl is being interviewed for August 6. (his personal site) howtosurvive2012.com/He talks about the next deluge that happens every 12,000 years based upon the Mayan calendar. How scientists changed their thinking after the late sixties from this concept to thinking it happened about every 500,000 years. It's an interesting listen.....
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Post by buttcheeks on Aug 11, 2005 17:31:35 GMT -6
Another heck of a ride this week folks. Babara Clow is going to talk about the Plaedian connection and the Mayan calendar and 2012. What does it mean. I've yet to figure it out since 1987. Will I be left behind? Do I want to be left behind? Does it matter? Tune in for one ride of the last 10,000 years.
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